Comments for disclojure: all things clojure

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Feb 25th Ed) by Alex Ott

Alex Ott — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:59:35 +0000

Hello. Can you include me into this list – twitter name is alexott_en.
For example, yesterday I did announce of clojure article in russian

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Feb 24th Ed) by tbatchelli

tbatchelli — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:36:02 +0000

Ah! There goes my automated translation system (powered by Google Translation). In fact, GT does a pretty mediocre job translating from Japanese :(.

Thanks for the heads up!

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Feb 24th Ed) by Chousuke

Chousuke — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:40:28 +0000

The Japanese text actually says “How to write a servlet in Clojure *without* using Compojure”

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Feb 22nd Ed) by andres

andres — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:49:03 +0000

@closingclojure: no need really, so don’t come back :)

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Feb 22nd Ed) by tbatchelli

tbatchelli — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:10:36 +0000

@closingclojure: Thanks for stopping by.

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Feb 22nd Ed) by closingclojure

closingclojure — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:01:15 +0000

And particularily I have observed that clojure is being promoted by those laggards who could not do well to learn ans work on advanced java. They just want to get hits on their website so that people might think they are geeks while infact they dont even know how to code but just want to show off in presentations :)

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Feb 22nd Ed) by closingclojure

closingclojure — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:58:18 +0000

I really dont see any need for clojure or any new language . I can understand the need only of that task cannnot be done easily in java.A new language Haa!! It is doomed for failure.

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Feb 4th Ed) by tzach

tzach — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:53:55 +0000

Without telling too much, I can say LOST, very much like Clojure, focus on concurrency.

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Feb 3rd Ed) by tbatchelli

tbatchelli — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:48:06 +0000

Thanks for noticing! Should be fixed now :)

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Feb 3rd Ed) by l0st3d

l0st3d — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:03:04 +0000

there’s a broken link to the discussion of session handling in ring

Comment on Where to start with Clojure by ax

ax — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:38:21 +0000

if you mention clojure plus emacs, i think you should also mention clojure plus vim: VimClojure . working great here (even on windows)!

Comment on This weekend in the Intertweets (Jan 31st Ed) by fogus

fogus — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:16:23 +0000

Sign that RH has been reading too much philosophy:

“Whether or not something can supply constant Kant… uhhh… count”

;-)

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Jan 26th Ed) by tbatchelli

tbatchelli — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:08:42 +0000

Indeed! I don’t know how come I didn’t think of that :| .

I noticed the book links, but I couldn’t tell what they were saying about it. Nevertheless, the book cover is nicer than the original book IMHO.

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Jan 26th Ed) by Alex Osborne

Alex Osborne — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:05:15 +0000

Try Google’s translator, it’s by no means perfect but usually you can get the gist of it:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.twitter.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dclojure

Many of the tweets seem to be about the release of a Japanese translation of Programming Clojure:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4274067890

Comment on Where to start with Clojure by tbatchelli

tbatchelli — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:14:41 +0000

Thanks Michael. I will add it once I fix Wordpress, since right now it is not letting me edit this page :(

Comment on Where to start with Clojure by Michael Kohl

Michael Kohl — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:44:17 +0000

Since you are linking to Marc Reid’s article on setting up Clojure on OS X, I’d like to point out my project ClojureX which is based on what Marc did and which by now is a pretty convenient way to set up Clojure on OS X, Linux, OpenSolaris and Windows (Cygwin):

http://github.com/citizen428/ClojureX

Comment on Clojure Conj 2010 conference in the works! by Tim Dysinger

Tim Dysinger — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:49:37 +0000

The community on IRC votes that it should be Clojure Conj 2010

We started working it with that name 3 months ago or so. http://twitter.com/danlarkin/status/5486880042

Comment on Clojure Conj 2010 conference in the works! by uberVU - social comments

uberVU - social comments — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:27:37 +0000

Social comments and analytics for this post…

This post was mentioned on Twitter by disclojure: ClojureConf 2010 in the works! http://ow.ly/ZfrS…

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Jan 20th Ed) by tbatchelli

tbatchelli — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:07:18 +0000

Keith, I agree with you that the question of whether it is worth to learn a language or not is a chicken or egg problem. When you learn a new language like Lisp, your brain changes in the process; you see things that you didn’t see before. You see ways of solving problems that you didn’t see before, and you will most likely be working at a different level of abstraction. Unfortunately you cannot explain the gains of learning a new language to someone who is new to it. I mean, you can explain the benefits, but the listener won’t really grasp them. Not until they learn the language and write a good amount of code with it.

I thought your answer was on the spot highlighting that the question cannot be answered truthfully with a feature by feature comparison. It wouldn’t do justice to any language.

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Jan 20th Ed) by Keith Irwin

Keith Irwin — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:55:00 +0000

I suspect that emotional resonance is the way we pick the languages we love. The day job is another matter. And what better way to illustrate the ineffability of such things? Paradoxes, broken metaphors, and circular logic.

Like Windows vs Macs. You’ll never have a solid, completely rational reason to try the one you don’t normally use. You just have to be curious.

And maybe that would have been a better answer. (Well, and some proofreading.)

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Jan 20th Ed) by tbatchelli

tbatchelli — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:25:40 +0000

You are absolutely right! And with this it makes two days in a row that I forget one link :(

Thanks for noticing!

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Jan 20th Ed) by indy

indy — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:19:46 +0000

There’s no link for ‘Mashups Using Clojure’ but I’m assuming it’s: http://nakkaya.com/2009/12/17/mashups-using-clojure/

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Jan 19th Ed) by tbatchelli

tbatchelli — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:09:31 +0000

Thanks for noticing the omission. Should be fixed now :)

I am glad you enjoy the site!

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Jan 19th Ed) by joshua-choi

joshua-choi — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:50:50 +0000

Your first, “Clojure refactoring” item is missing its link. Could you add a link to it?

I really enjoy reading these daily!

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Jan 14th Ed) by Flamefork

Flamefork — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:55:05 +0000

Need to mention that, although Fleet is aimed at HTML, it is not limited to it.

Comment on Where to start with Clojure by Jeff Heon

Jeff Heon — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:13:41 +0000

La Clojure is also available for the free community edition of IntelliJ.
http://www.jetbrains.org/

For quick and dirty Clojure with a minimalist UI, there is use waterfront.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/waterfront/files/

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Dec 6th Ed) by defn

defn — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:32:01 +0000

Hello, and thanks for the mention!

Per your comment: “May I suggest that something similar is done for Clojure-contrib?”

That is definitely in the works. I am retooling some of the site design to make the navigation less atrocious.

Pretty soon the docs which have examples written will show up in a different color, and will be listed under the respective namespaces in a much more coherent fashion.

If anyone has any advice or suggestions I’m happy to discuss.

Technomancy suggested creating a sort of JSON version which could be held on a central server and be accessed more as a service IIRC. Someone else in #clojure suggested a sort of wiki-esque interface for the current site. Anyone have any preference there?

Thanks all,
Devin Walters

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Dec 4th Ed) by tbatchelli

tbatchelli — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:49:56 +0000

Stephan, thanks for the clarification. LOC comparisons are always tricky and more often than not they are subject of heated debatable. Sometimes it is like comparing French with Chinese as the ideal for poetry. But I personally think that it is good to perform these kind of comparisons, like @Laujensen did, and also to point out at flaws in these comparisons when needed. At the end of the day, we all learn from all this dialogue!

Sometimes people get too carried away when they read these language comparison articles, only to focus on some numbers at the end of them and then start tweeting “Clojure is 25% faster than Scala and 50% shorter” (or whatever the tweet-storm was saying). It misses the whole point. Context in these kinds of articles is very important, and so is peer review.

Thanks for tuning in!

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Dec 4th Ed) by Stephan Schmidt

Stephan Schmidt — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:24:55 +0000

My main criticism was that @laujensen’s Clojure example did a different thing than the Scala one, it was missing timings, printlns and file checks. Secondly the Scala example wasn’t optimized, several lines of code reading the conent of a file could be replaced with only one line.

I think we can learn from LOC comparisons, but they should be done in a fair way, with the best examples from each language. Otherwise they are just FUD and a waste of everyones time.

Cheers
Stephan
http://www.codemonkeyism.com

Comment on Today in the Intertweets (Dec 30th Ed) by Scott

Scott — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:18:21 +0000

Thanks for doing disclojure.org! I don’t follow twitter and it’s great to get all the benefit (and more with your great summaries) summarized in my RSS reader. Very useful!